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长枪单挑红黑龙攻略 by 兔子

长枪单挑红黑龙攻略 by 兔子

Lance solo red fata video by happysadguy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-5O7qHBcSg


Before you start, take note that Lance is proven the overall best weapon type of dealing damage in this game, using it solo red fata is the fastest and safest way. That is, however, if you know how to use a lance correctly.
Since smart people like you guys are choosing lance kill red fata, I assume all of you are good at using lance and understand what I am talking about here.


Miniguide for solo Red Fatalis with Lance by Kayin
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1 - Weapon and Armor set up
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Weapon:
Black Ruiner Lance or True BlackDragon Spr

Armor:
Saint Sword Piercing
Khezu Mail U
Borealis GauntletMai (would be Auroros Gauntlet Mai if your character is male, same for the others)
Borealis Tasset Mai
Borealis Pants Mai

Skill: ESP, Guard+1, Damage Recovery Speed+1
Defense: 142

The armor setup here are all about the skills, the defense is a bit low, but enough for this battle.
The ESP skill will reduce the sharpness lost when bouncing by half, while preventing your weapon from bouncing in the first place. This is why it is so effective in fatalis fight with melee weapon type.
Guard+1 let you take less damage, and less backward distance when guarding red fata’s attack while Damage Recovery Speed+1 helps you recover some of the damage lose during battle.



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2 - Item to Bring
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The following item set up is just for suggestion:

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Powertalon
Powercharm
Armortalon
Armorcharm
Mega Juice x 5
Whetstone x 20
Knife Mackarel x 10 (optional)
Cool Drink x 3

Yes, that’s right
That’s all you need for solo red fata with lance
You don’t need any fancy stuff like Ancient Potion, Max Potion , Ice Crystal or Bitterbug at all
you should be able to block all red fata’s melee attack anyway, no need for any healing item
If you run short on Mega Juice, don’t forget you can always trade your blos fang or jaw to Jungle elder for easy Mega Juice.

Mega Demondrug, Mega Armorskin, Power Seed, Armor Seed, Large Bomb+ are all other tool items that can help you with this fight. However, they are not required, so do what you feel like.

And for those who try this way for the first time, bring some Ice Crystal and Bitterbug for extra Cool Drink.



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3 - Battle Steps
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The following steps are for Red Fatalis only, but you can get the idea for lance kill its brother

1) When the quest starts, run to the side as soon as you take control of your charactor to avoid the deadly
body slam attack, then drink your Mega Juice as well as Cool Drink.

==> Note:
Red Fatalis will act according to your actions in battle, so here I don’t really have any exact step to follow, but more like what you can do while red fata is doing its move.


2) When this red boy is standing on the ground, get yourself right in front of its belly and attack there. You can simply block its roar, claw attack and foot step with your shield, don’t forget this.

3) The triangle+circle charge attack is the key of dealing major damage to red fata in this battle. Aim at the open space between its belly and right leg, and start your charge attack toward there. Each charge attack can hit it for 3 or 4 times, then immediately press triangle to cancel your move when you reach the back of its right leg, which is the “Safe Zone”.

4) Try to move around and make it turns. If it turns twice, it would be totally safe to lunch all 3 triangle combo; however if it only turn once, that means it is going to attack really soon, remember do not put your weapon away or backward too far when it happens, simply walk a few steps to the side to avoid upcoming danger, or you can always block.

5) Always fight in the open area, especially when you are using charge attack, if you get to the corner the camera view will be really nasty. Sometimes even worse with Red Fata’s body alone with the wall are blocking the whole screen, you can’t really see a thing in this kind of mess.

6) by the time red fata flies to sky, that’s the safe moment to sharp your weapon. It would be better if you can keep the sharpness of your weapon at blue.

7) When the red boy finishes its 4 sky fireball attack and lands, that’s the moment you follow this combo on its pretty face: circle, circle, x, triangle, circle, circle, triangle+circle.
this combo will deal more than 9 hits in a really short time, much better then using the rage combo of duals on its face in terms of damage. But it is not easy to do, requires some timing in order to lunch all hits successfully, especially the first 5 hits. I would suggest you take some practice with this combo.

8) For the most dangerous meteor rain attack of red fata, charge your way to the back of its right leg and continue your attack there. Never stand at the left or right of its body, you will still get hit if you do so.

9) Use bombs to help you break its body parts. The whole fight would take you about 40 minutes if you are fighting Red Fatalis with lance for the first time. Once you get used to its move and all, the time will be much less. My record so far is about 29 minutes solo with bombs; it can still be improved, due to the fact that lancing is not my specialty.



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4 - Frequently Asked Questions
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Q: Do I need to bring any healing item for the first time?
A: The answer would be yes if you are not comfortable with lancing. Since you can block almost all of its melee attacks with your shield, you won’t take much damage. But if that makes you more confident, by all means yes, bring them if you wish. Also, bring extra power juice, too.

Q: Why do you recommend bombs for fatalis fight?
A: Each large bomb+ does 150 set damage to fatalis, which is a GREAT amount. With bomber skill from Felyne Mask,
the damage is even greater: 150 x 1.5 = 225 set damage for each large bomb+
with 25 large bomb+ plus Felyne Mask, the total damage you can deal is up to 225 x 25 = 5625 (!!!!)
check the HP data of each monster, and see for yourself how HUGE this damage actually is
you can easily solo any fatalis quest with any weapon type if you can make it happen

Q: Is there any other lance would work besides Black Ruiner Lance and True BlackDragon Spr?
A: So far I’ve only tried those 2, but I am pretty sure Black Tempest can do the same job, but it would take a little longer

[ 本帖最后由 司馬姨 于 2006-11-27 23:44 编辑 ]

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晕,鼻血兔,你这样叫英文苦手的小弟怎么办呀。

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......挺好理解的

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原帖由 ≮宇智波鼬≯ 于 2006-11-19 12:06 发表
晕,鼻血兔,你这样叫英文苦手的小弟怎么办呀。
人家最近都在国外论坛上玩呢
ME这个ID的由来~
http://bbs.newwise.com/viewthread.php?tid=169339

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好吧,我的问题是如果金身了,用普通攻击不就会弹刀了么= =
莫非50%以后全力冲刺么?

我觉得用枪可以考虑这套:

剑圣耳环+ 砂龙S腰+雌火S脚+雌火S手 +WHATEVER(红黑身OK)
总之配出心眼+防御+1就OK了,防御应该比140要高点。
至于回复速度么,红黑的攻击很猛,一般人中招了都会第一时间补血的,所以可以不要。

个人感觉还是片手最灵活,虽然至今我还没杀过去红黑,万恶的雄叫。
用枪的话防雄叫就更难了。
青蛙语录之“论权利与义务”:挖坑是权利,填坑是义务。
《the unforigven》sings: "What I've felt, what I've known, never shined through in what I've shown..."

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原帖由 Ginar 于 2006-11-20 08:14 发表
好吧,我的问题是如果金身了,用普通攻击不就会弹刀了么= =
莫非50%以后全力冲刺么?

我觉得用枪可以考虑这套:

剑圣耳环+ 砂龙S腰+雌火S脚+雌火S手 +WHATEVER(红黑身OK)
总之配出心眼+防御+1就OK ...
金身时用炸弹人战术 -0-

有防御+1的话防御红黑近身攻击,没有HP的损失

吼叫的话是很容易防御的
红黑龙的吼叫有很明显的准备动作
用长枪、片手都很好防的
大剑就比较困难了,往往在攻击中途突然遇到吼叫,导致来不及防御住

[ 本帖最后由 司馬姨 于 2006-11-20 08:51 编辑 ]
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长枪想防住雄叫前提就是在红黑肚子前面不能贪攻,戳到一半时候红黑一声吼,神仙都救不了你,具体请回忆VS角龙。

至于炸弹人,我目前还不知道如何放炸弹-0-/而且引爆方法也是问题,总不能跑远用染色球一个个跩吧?

至于大剑VS红黑,已经有VIDEO了,不过没有打死而已:

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/WAHLElA1Iso/
青蛙语录之“论权利与义务”:挖坑是权利,填坑是义务。
《the unforigven》sings: "What I've felt, what I've known, never shined through in what I've shown..."

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原帖由 Ginar 于 2006-11-20 09:37 发表
长枪想防住雄叫前提就是在红黑肚子前面不能贪攻,戳到一半时候红黑一声吼,神仙都救不了你,具体请回忆VS角龙。

至于炸弹人,我目前还不知道如何放炸弹-0-/而且引爆方法也是问题,总不能跑远用染色球一个个跩 ...
引诱它转身,此外它飞到天上时都是安置炸弹的良机

不推荐用染色球引爆
速度太慢
容易错过时机
兔子都是直接扔石头引爆

如果用长枪和大剑可以无伤用武器的最尖端引爆

此外为了发动猫的火事场力的话还可以直接用脚踢,爆炸后被炸飞的我方是全身无敌状态-0-


那个视频兔子在另外一帖中已经帖过了
ME这个ID的由来~
http://bbs.newwise.com/viewthread.php?tid=169339

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这下就差一个用锤杀红黑的了。用枪还是蛮有难度的。
用锤穿高耳+炸弹可不可以呀

[ 本帖最后由 eneyy 于 2006-11-20 13:24 编辑 ]
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原帖由 eneyy 于 2006-11-20 13:22 发表
这下就差一个用锤杀红黑的了。用枪还是蛮有难度的。
用锤穿高耳+炸弹可不可以呀
用枪其实是最简单的 -0-
高耳+炸弹强化的套装是无法组合出来的
没有头部仅靠4件身体的部位不可能组出高级耳塞这个技能(弩装除外)
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昨天按照兔子的贴试验了下,发现下血最多就是被龙脚踩的,果然想冲刺也要找准机会,不能再它原地踏步的时候冲阿-0-/

其实比较起来,还是片手最快,可惜我练枪太多了,发现枪比较有感觉。。。
青蛙语录之“论权利与义务”:挖坑是权利,填坑是义务。
《the unforigven》sings: "What I've felt, what I've known, never shined through in what I've shown..."

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原帖由 Ginar 于 2006-11-21 12:01 发表
昨天按照兔子的贴试验了下,发现下血最多就是被龙脚踩的,果然想冲刺也要找准机会,不能再它原地踏步的时候冲阿-0-/
其实比较起来,还是片手最快,可惜我练枪太多了,发现枪比较有感觉。。。
多试几次就不会被踩了 -0-
熟悉红黑的动作很重要
ME这个ID的由来~
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原帖由 Ginar 于 2006-11-20 09:37 发表
长枪想防住雄叫前提就是在红黑肚子前面不能贪攻,戳到一半时候红黑一声吼,神仙都救不了你,具体请回忆VS角龙。

至于炸弹人,我目前还不知道如何放炸弹-0-/而且引爆方法也是问题,总不能跑远用染色球一个个跩 ...
....那个...偶素那视频的作者 那红黑大剑视频素没编辑完 而不是没杀死 视频长42分钟 由于偶的习惯是放YOUTUBE或土豆网 所以必须要自己分段编辑 偶机子一般 速度慢 所以就编辑了2段 主要打法看下就行了 又不素炫耀的目的 大剑要打红黑无伤的话 比较难 主要怕吼
另外所有近身武器打红黑都可以不用炸弹的 大剑不用炸弹G 40分钟左右 长枪的话30分多 肚子流打法

[ 本帖最后由 LOLI控の兄贵 于 2006-11-25 23:53 编辑 ]

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原帖由 LOLI控の兄贵 于 2006-11-25 23:51 发表

....那个...偶素那视频的作者 那红黑大剑视频素没编辑完 而不是没杀死 视频长42分钟 由于偶的习惯是放YOUTUBE或土豆网 所以必须要自己分段编辑 偶机子一般 速度慢 所以就编辑了2段 主要打法看下就行了 又不素 ...
希望是放YOUTUBE
国外连土豆网速度很慢的

也希望您常来这里玩指点大家~
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原帖由 司馬姨 于 2006-11-26 00:05 发表


希望是放YOUTUBE
国外连土豆网速度很慢的

也希望您常来这里玩指点大家~
指点到谈不上啦 =  =|| 互相交流经验 共同进步嘛~
以前的视频都素放YOUTUBE 但后来发现放土豆的速度更快...所以后面的都素放土豆了

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原帖由 LOLI控の兄贵 于 2006-11-26 00:18 发表

指点到谈不上啦 = =|| 互相交流经验 共同进步嘛~
以前的视频都素放YOUTUBE 但后来发现放土豆的速度更快...所以后面的都素放土豆了
也对,毕竟像兔子这样在国外的只是少数
泪奔~~~~
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原帖由 司馬姨 于 2006-11-26 00:22 发表


也对,毕竟像兔子这样在国外的只是少数
泪奔~~~~
[wdb23] 米办法...偶素被别人逼的...他们说YOUTUBE看太慢了...

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在国外看土豆的速度 估计和国内看YOUTUBE差不多吧?
偶刚做了个
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/TqTWl2fciB0/
你看下速度如何?

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原帖由 LOLI控の兄贵 于 2006-11-26 00:27 发表
在国外看土豆的速度 估计和国内看YOUTUBE差不多吧?
偶刚做了个
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/TqTWl2fciB0/
你看下速度如何?
等了大约一分半才开始有画面
一开始就是红黑装龙S麒麟S和角龙U呀 -0-
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原帖由 司馬姨 于 2006-11-26 00:35 发表


等了大约一分半才开始有画面
一开始就是红黑装龙S麒麟S和角龙U呀 -0-
汗果然国外看土豆慢....偶几个朋友都说很快 进度条都看不到

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